Rethinking Blog Comments: Much More Than Just A Quick Way to Get Web Traffic
A comment left on a popular blog may be viewed by a few hundred people in one day. Multiply that by the lifespan of the blog and you’ll see that a simple comment may say a lot about you. Every blog comment is usually permanent. It’s not just a hyperlink but a long-term representation of your brand.
Too many webmasters view blog commenting as only a traffic or link building strategy. This rigid marketing emphasis has led to certain modes of behavior. For example, one might make the effort to comment exclusively on blogs with nofollow turned off, while using keyword names in order to increase the search engine ranking for one’s website.
Alternatively, you may also try to be the first to comment on popular blogs and/or include links to your website in a bid to gain some extra traffic from the additional visibility. There’s nothing wrong with this if you truly add to the discussion or include a relevant link. But not many do.
I’m not here to talk about improving the quality of comments. Nor am I going to lecture you about comment etiquette because I don’t want to regulate the way you interact with any website (other than Dosh Dosh).
What I’m trying to change is the way you think about comments. They are ways for you to get some quick traffic. They may help (in some small way) with your search rankings, but is there anything more to marketing via blog comments? And my answer is of course, yes.
Take this Perspective: View Blog Comments As a Networking Tool

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I’ll get right to the point. See blog comments as a way to network with the author, so that you’ll be able to obtain a particular benefit in the future. Think long-term: not just incoming traffic today but exposure down the road. Don’t just focus on getting an immediate return (visitors via your link drop) but use comments to develop relationships of ongoing value.
Bloggers are not difficult people to understand. Almost all of them read all the comments they receive. They moderate them. Comments affect how they feel or think. Many see comments as an indicator of interest in their content. They like people to discuss what they wrote.
An article on a blog provides you with the perfect way to connect with the writer. You have the context right before your eyes. There’s no need to search for conversation fodder. Are you going to scan the entire article, write a very brief comment and quickly drop a link to your site because you just want maximum, immediate visibility? Is that all you want?
Building a relationship with the other blogger allows you to leverage his or her brand in the future because he or she will be more inclined towards your propositions. Comments are a way to converse with a prospective collaborator or friend and they are especially beneficial when you’re trying to interact with an influencer.
Influencers have to wade through a lot of noise everyday because many people clamor for their attention or help. But that doesn’t mean they don’t pick up signals. Consistent and value-added interaction with an influencer via blog comments will allow you to reap benefits you will not get from comments made entirely in favor of immediate self-interest.
How Comments Fail When You Think Only of Short-Term Benefits

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A popular affiliate marketer recently left a comment on DoshDosh. It was initially caught in the spam filter and when I retrieved it, I did a quick google search for the comment in quotes. What did I find? The same exact comment was posted word-for-word on several other blogs, even when each article was about completely different topics.
This wasn’t a nobody but an established marketer. And this wasn’t the first time he left generic comments on my site. I don’t have anything against him as a person because I don’t know him personally but this sort of behavior just turns me off. It doesn’t appeal to me at all. And he probably just lost someone who could really get him some attention/traffic.
This is an extreme example, one bordering on spam but I feel it is indicative of what happens what you only view comments as a means to access instant benefits.
When you think in the short-term, you’re usually overlooking the value of relationships. And if you want to be successful in any industry or field, it helps to make friends with people who can help to get you there. Commenting is an extraordinary easy way to not only get visitors to your site, but develop mutually beneficial relationships along the way.
This is not about flattering an influencer or lying to curry favor. This doesn’t mean you shouldn’t drop comment links. This is all about having a different mindset, about rethinking how commenting can benefit you in the long run, over and over again.
I feel that adopting a networking-oriented perspective when commenting will actually improve your comment quality, not to mention that people will more easily recognize that you’re reaching out or trying to connect on a more personal level. Bloggers are usually good at sniffing out people who are just out for a link or some quick traffic.
Think long-term, think relationships and think about getting repeat benefits.
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I think your site has gotten it’s share of commercial comments, and a lot of people here became subscribers where you first branded it as a “Make Money Online” blog in the title tag, so you definitely have some of those “pimp your website” commenters.
Personally, I am “guilty” of leaving short, thoughtless comments like “great post!” because I just want to be interactive and leave feedback, rather than just ignore the authors efforts. Sometimes I don’t feel like writing prose and contributing to the discussion, but I don’t want to ignore their effort.
Interesting observations, Maki. I have nothing against people building their traffic using comments on my blog, as long as they’re contributing. One-liners saying “great blog” go to the waste bin as soon as I see them. They’re easy to spot.
I encourage backlink building through 3 different plugins for comment: Dofollow, CommentLuv, and KeywordLuv. It doesn’t mean the commenters can have a field day with irrelevant comments. I think I’m doing a pretty good job with it.
I kept thinking throughout the article that it was mostly common sense, but although it’s surprising (to me) that most people really don’t get it, I also see it almost everywhere I look.
I guess we need more people like you who spell out the common sense, so the sheeple can follow.
Nice post Maki.
I just recently started with my blog, and commenting on other blogs, such as yours. But every time I leave a comment, I try to add value to the post, or thank the writer for sharing his expertise. The only `advertising` I do is the website part from the comment form. But that´s not really advertising is it?
Anyway, once a again a great post and worth a bookmark for and from me.
What a great expansion on the most abused marketing method online. Since I was in the webosphere during your last post I watched it get amazing. Between the comments and the social buzz it was like a 24hr forum mixed with a peer thinktank. Very cool to see and share some part in.
Also nice to see someone bringing back the meaning of comments as more than a method of promotion.
Nice post as always man, Peace
It’s funny, Maki, I agree with everything you said and I’d like to think I’m the type of commentor that leaves a part of me when I comment because I’ve just read and enjoyed a part of you. However, I find myself weary of leaving comments of weight on blogs that recieve a ton of them, especially when I’m late to the game and there are already 70 comments.
I think to myself, “no one will read this and it will just be lost among the ‘Nice post!’ and all the other crap.”
I forget that, as a blogger, I read every comment, so why wouldn’t others? I need to remember that and comment no matter the atmosphere… If I have something to say, I should say it.
Nice post!
Maki, thats an insightful post. I’d like to talk about two specific points:
1: You said: ” When you think in the short-term, you’re usually overlooking the value of relationships”. True. In fact this is not only with blog commenting but in all the aspects of life. A strong relationship develops on the foundation of prolonged and constructive interaction over a period of time, especially in the blogosphere. Hence I completely agree with you there.
2: You also said: “Commenting is an extraordinary easy way to not only get visitors to your site, but develop mutually beneficial relationships along the way.” Thats a misconception. It is not an “extraordinarily easy way “. Why? Here are the reasons:
a) Leaving good blog comments takes up considerable amount of time and doing that just on some blogs, will not get you many visitors. In fact they will usually be way below your expectations.
b) If you turn out to be the first commentator on a top blog and you expect a good amount of traffic, then I want to inform that there have been instances when I left the first comment on top blogs and that too a good and elaborate comment. However the results were discouraging. Not too many visitors flocked to my blog. Hence thats when this myth, that if I am the top commentator on a post in a top blog, it will bring good traffic, was busted .
But blog commenting is definitely a nice way to bring “some” traffic but it only happens if you are consistent in commenting over a period of time. And it is definitely a very effective way to build relationships. But its not an easy way. Although it doesn’t require any money but does require your time to read the blog post and then post a genuine comment.
Interesting…
I don’t comment often because with the blogs that I do read, I read to learn from. Here, for instance, there is not much that I could add in the comments that would benefit anyone else, and I refuse to comment just because I can.
From a blogger perspective, I actually don’t mind getting the “this is great” or “thanks Lid” from my friends, but don’t very much like it when someone I don’t know, leaves that type of comment [only] can’t quite work out why though.
Building relationships is tricky, but man – would never have suspected anyone would copy and paste comments. Hope you said something to him – help the poor guy out – maybe he just doesn’t know? (Although given his field of interest, though, you’d think…)
The lines between self-promotion and community participation are often very blurry. I think this is a good focus piece for the blog community, hopefully those commentators who are serious about building long term benefits will actually read this post. It’s always good to have a wake-up call- and the blog community should regulate itself before it explodes with usesless comments.
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I have to agree with your statements regarding long-term thinking and relationship building. My blogs still get traffic from comments I left here at Dosh Dosh several months ago. And many of those comments were down in the row, since I normally fail at being an early commenter. So my little “success story” must be a good sign.
As for that marketer (spammer?), he’s lucky, because other bloggers might have exposed his name if they were in your place. It was very polite of yours to keep his identity secret.
Dead on post, Maki. Indeed, commenting is very important in establishing a direct relationship between the blog author and its readers. It’s the medium through which readers can exercise their voice and freely share their opinions on a particular post. I’ve also had my share of spam comments, most automatic, but a big chunk of them are manually submitted (most probably copy/pasted). I usually have no tolerance for this kind of behavior and quickly proceed to delete them. Comments like “great post” and stuff like that don’t mind me that much, although basically, in this situation, the commenter is stealing attention without really providing any particular value to the discussion.
All too often it is individual who should know better that spam and leave worthless comments. If a reader doesn’t have time to show they took time to read, then why bother to leave a post.
I was taught good comments are a building block of your own visibility. I don’t mean just for one’s site but how one is viewed by their peers. Leave links and write something worth reading has been beaten into my head.
“I don’t comment often because with the blogs that I do read, I read to learn from. Here, for instance, there is not much that I could add in the comments that would benefit anyone else, and I refuse to comment just because I can.”
I have to agree with Lid on this. Of course this does not apply for all blogs I read, but it does certainly apply for this blog. However, I don’t think short comments like “great post!” are bad at all, even though they doesn’t help building a good relationship with the author. Now this is just my own opinion but just hearing someone say that kind of thing makes me happy. Of course I prefer longer comments and discussing with the the commenters but a short comment is perfectly fine with me
OK, let’s Network!
Seriously, I’m glad Maki tackled this as he did.
Blog commenting has become so ubiquitous in marketing,
that we might as well have a quality standard, and intelligent
approach. It really is another social gathering place, so why
not create focused web strings?
Thanks again Maki.
PS-
I really liked this also:
” An article on a blog provides you with the perfect way to connect with the writer. You have the context right before your eyes. There’s no need to search for conversation fodder.”
Dude. Maki, it’s like you read my draft of an upcoming post and put it out here in beautifully polished form. I’ve been thinking a lot about this topic lately and I totally agree. Commenting can be such a powerful branding and relationship activity. Doing it just for traffic and links is usually an uphill battle and nearly always a waste of time.
Thanks and I’ll get my post up ASAP so we can flesh this topic out even more.
Wow… Great post!
Just kidding… I hate those posts too – I will generally let some of them slide if after looking at their website it’s not spammy. I have to agree w/ Brett Borders though… I’m guilty too sometimes. If I read a really good post and everyone else has already brought up the points / comments that I would have left I usually just say to myself “good post” and move on… But sometimes you have to stop and say well done, or I agree completely just because the author has taken the time to put out a quality article.
Well done ‘-)
While I am loathe to tell other people how to run their lives, I think that if you’re leaving comments on a blog purely for traffic/attention reasons, you’re doing it wrong.
I think a comment should be about adding value while sharing an opinion. When you leave a comment, you are indeed in a sense representing yourself to the world. If you want people to see you as a thoughtful and valuable contributor, leave a thoughtful comment.
Of course, there are exceptions. For example, if a post is a how-to or fix-it post, it’s perfectly acceptable in my view to leave a “thanks! it worked!” or “interesting project…here’s a link to what mine ended up looking like”. The writer usually likes to know that they’ve helped and/or are interested in seeing the results of other people following their instructions.
You know, I think I had a point there but I suspect I may have lost it along the way.
(and yes, a tendency to ramble a little and be somewhat absent-minded is part of my personality and therefore I’m comfortable with these concepts representing me in this comment
)
Great Post!
I like to think of comments like a conversation, with sending and receiving. If your intention is to add to the conversation and give back to the community all your comments will be helpful and wanted.
That said we all start blogging somewhere and I feel commenting is a good place to start, and many bloggers use comments to find their own voice. I like to read my comments before I post them, and see if they are any help, and sometimes they are.
Maki,
I really have to say that this gives me pause, because I am often one to leave a comment if for no other reason then I don’t like to be a lurker, or leave you thinking it was a boring or bad article when I really enjoyed it.
I am a newer blogger and it feels weird to me to have 36-40 ( or whatever– the ratio is the point) views on a post one day and then four or five comments. I feel like…hey? Why won’t they talk to me? So I want to make sure I at least say hi, I stopped by and this is what I thought.
I do admit though that if I am on a site where I haven’t really had a chance to establish a relationship and there are 70 other comments and I would be re-hashing then..well I might just slip out the back door til next time.
You mean I have to write something valuable here ?
You’re right on. I admit that I like getting link juice and traffic from my comments, but I consider that as a bonus and I comment without checking if there is a nofollow or not.
I do care about my personal brand and I don’t want to write anything that I am not willing to attach to my name. There are three things I am doing when I comment:
1. I’m bringing value to the conversation,
2. building a relationship to the author when I keep commenting and
3. building a personal brand
I just have to say that your post about blog comments is really thoughtful. For people like me commenting on blogs requires a lot of thinking, too (what to say, how would other people react…). Commenting on blogs is fun, and as long as people post relevant comments , everyone will be happy. I think, unlike forums, where there are people comparing their number of posts with each other, blogs have far better quality comments, which contribute greatly to the discussion.
Hello Maki,
As I tour the blogosphere, reading the sometimes stunning/ sometimes boring content, I am always amazed that 99.9% of commenters have blogs.
“You don’t say!” I hear the laughter…
It is a rare occurence that commenters sans-blog leave their marks after a post (the first commenter, Brett, also pleasingly is an exception!)
Us non-bloggers and bloggers-to-be have many motivations: researching to start one or simple interest in a topic with no desire to join in by doing it ourselves.
Does that mean we shouldn’t leave a comment as we haven’t a clue what we’re rambling on about?
or do we have more freedom to write what we think without a project to market?
Self-PR usually means carefully editing as you type your views.
Would you leave the same comment if you didn’t link your own blog to it?
Within the limits of the comments policy (why would anyone not respect this if they want to contribute by getting published?), I’m sure any blogger would welcome a meaningful comment that adds to the conversation and moves it on.
Thanks Maki for provoking our thoughts about commenter behavior and psychology- it’s all about encouraging audience participation.
After all, it worked for blog-bereft me
(Oh, and have you ever come across a guest post from a non-blogger?? Maybe not…)
I have subscribed to your blog. I am a new blogger and want to learn everything I can to be a good blogger. So far I like what I see here and wanted to subscribe to read more (otherwise, my fog mind wouldn’t remember regularly).
I couldn’t agree more. I love when people engage in active conversation about my posts and don’t mind if people post relevant links at all. Great post. This is probably the number one thing I love about blogging and you hit the nail right on the head.
Awesome comments to a very good post. Leave a comment if you feel passionately about the topic, if you just enjoy the writer’s content, or just want to give praise. Don’t do it for the wrong reasons, people are too aware in today’s day n age.
Yup, this makes a lot of sense to me. I would rather have a “nice post” than no comment, but not when the commenter is only there to get a link back (I often delete comments when the url is something like The Furniture Blog or whatever, i.e. blatantly commercial, as I mistrust the reasons such people are there. I’m a bit of a stickler for visitors coming to my sites because they like what I write, not because they want to get a link back.
And it really, really makes my day when I get a long, well thought out comment and a conversation starts. I don’t suppose they’ll be very long conversations at this stage, but I really appreciate the exchange of words.
Maki, thanks for this insightful article on commenting.
One way to deter people who want to comment FIRST, for the sake of getting more traffic to their websites, is to use a reverse commenting order.
This means the latest comment says on top, the very first comment will be on the bottom of the page! (like a blog
).
I have seen few blogs following this style.
I agree. I always try to leave a thoughtful comment that adds to the discussion. Obviously it looks better if it appears that you actually read the post. I think sometimes people get too caught up in the game of tag that has become blogging. I always appreciate your insights Maki, since you seem to be able to keep a level head when everyone else goes off the deep end following certain less than ethical tactics. Thanks for continuing your posts! And I really love the new design, simple, to the point and very efficient.
I tend only to comment when what I have read resonates with me in some way. When it does, I feel enthusiastic about leaving a comment. I would imagine that is when our comments would be at our best. What good is an empty comment? Either way, thanks for the article. It has reminded me that it is in my best interest to comment more!
I don’t think that comments always have to add value to the conversation, be funny, or provide any sort of information for others. What’s the problem with just leaving an encouraging comment telling the blog author what a great job he has done or that you just loved his article. I’m not telling you to go around every single blog in your niche and start spamming their blogs with these kinds of comments, but once in a while, it wouldn’t hurt to do so.
By the way,
Great Post
When I was new to blogging,I never cared much about this important element.When I blog-hopped through those well-known blogsites and noticed the amazing responses through comment,then I have realized the importance of it. And yeah,I agree on commenting in popular blog(s),lets say as one of your “marketing strategy” of promoting yourself(as I’m doing it right now ^_^)
Thanks for this post.I will put up a link in my blog and share em with my friends.
Angela.
Dear Maki,
We agree with your point. We do believe that BLOG comment is the most effective way to increase link popularity. So, why don’t you set-up some standards for commentators for genuine comments? You should allow only those who talks ‘Point to Ponder’ with that subject. After all web 3.0 is all about in coming days.
Anyway, Good going every time.
Raj.
Great post Maki.
One more point to add, which agrees with all you’ve said – if you’ve identified a bigger blog than you in your niche and want to a) get some visibility and short-term traffic, and b) start developing a relationship with the blogger, then I suggest you make an effort to post quality comments regularly over at least a 2-3 week period.
I’m not saying you should comment on every post during that time, or get to the point where it’s more stalking than commenting, but if you can provide quality comments, over an extended period, you will start to be noticed – not just by the blogger, but by his readers also. You do need to add value, if you take it too far and become a burden, rather than an asset, you’re going to end up with nothing.
Comments are such a great way to build relationships – I have a book review blog that started out as a place for me to review books I read just for my own benefit, but then I stumbled across another blogger doing something similar who introduced me to lots more people – now I have lots of regulars who comment on my blog – and its not about link building but relationship building – a little community – they visit me and I visit them and we all learn from each other.
Great post!
yeas i agree that comments really gets good traffic, coz i have observe it when I am doing blog commenting in sites and blogs, I can see that the rankings get up a little bit
I don’t want to spend much time on commenting on the fact that I agree with you Maki. I agree with almost every blog post you make so that is not a big deal. What I do like to comment on is the fact that when you (or anyone else for that matter) writes about how people ought to comment on blogs 9/10 times you’ll see that almost every comment you get will be a valuable one. It’ll only be the occational spammer that will leave a “great post” comment on a post like this.
Maybe a way to increase the quality of comments on ones personal blog would be to always write about how people should comment? *LOL* Might be a bit boring in the long run.
Hi Maki – I hope you put the guy’s comment back in the spam folder.
I can see what you mean about comments being a useful way of leaving your brand all over the Internet. I noticed that when I google my name, I often get comments I made on other blogs in the search results. That also makes you realise that you’ve got to be extra careful about what you say. People like the guy you mentioned are really harming their reputation.
Maki, this is actually the first article I can think of that I’ve read expounding on this topic, and it makes a lot of sense. I like to leave comments to let the blogger(s) know that I’ve read and appreciated the content, and because I know I love receiving comments myself. But I don’t always do so, thinking that it won’t matter to such-and-such-bigname-blogger lol…
Either way, it’s definitely given me a new thought process to comments, and I thank you for that.
Hi Maki
Well said, and in fact, I’ve read about this issue on other blogs previously.
Essentially, the comments section of a blog is supposed to be an avenue for blog visitors to provide input or thoughts on a topic being discussed. Ideally, comments should aim to add value to a post, to disagree with the points explained, or simply to add another dimension to the matter.
However, many have exploited this tool in the interest of Internet Marketing. Nevertheless, commenting shouldn’t be confined to a box, as suggested by Mikael. It is a tool to express ourselves and people should really be encouraged to see it that way.
In the long run, comment spam filters are still necessary (I delete much comment spam on a daily basis). But, as bloggers, the comments section is still a very special part of a blog that allows readers to share their opinions constructively. Only then would two way communication be achieved, helping the blogger to expand his thoughts, or to gain new ideas from others.
Cheers, Samantha Tang
Forget about the links and traffic! I think social networking is the interconnection of nods. Blogger A belongs to groups of bloggers B, F, H, and M. When bloggers from one group belong to similar groups their relationship as a total social group is stronger and prominent on the whole Web. Being a stronger group the Alpha group allows it to attract stronger and more interesting members.
To really understand this, go to a Zoo and observe a clan of monkeys! There are a few bosses and the females are running around next to their favorite boss. When a new male comes into the group one boss stands up and the other bosses follow. The new male runs away. After he runs away, he will sit in the distance and wait for female monkeys to come to him. When a number of them come to him he become a boss as well.
Is this The Cosa Nostra of Social Media? The Digital Jungle? The Matrix!
Pick your favorite!
I tend to agree that most people who are leaving comments aren’t looking at the big picture, so to speak. For instance, I recently had a reader leave a poorly written, off topic, one sentence comment on a post, and then proceeded to leave 4 of her links in the body of that comment. I checked out the sites, and it wasn’t a spammer, but it just goes to show how one dimensional this issue can be with some.
I only leave comments if I’m genuinely interested in the content of the post. I value the networking relationship much more than the instant reward. You might gain not only extra exposure, but a good friend in the process.
Blog comments also serves as backlinks (I’ve tried it in blogs, I don’t know what’s the effect in site). It is an effective tool for building good relationship with fellow bloggers and readers as well
Hello, you have made me rethink my comments. They are generally of the “great article” one or two lines variety. Rather repetitive and generally self-serving – just for the link. But I will now have to put more thought into my comments. I had never thought past the linking. It was just in comment and than out. Thanks for the insight. I am slowly learning “social networking etiquette ” and adding some sort of substance to a blog post is important.
I am absolutely agree with you. I was collaborating in several blogs and I received a lot of comments of ‘free marketing’. That is a way, so I let them to comment whatever they want, if I consider they are not spammers, of course.
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kai@ormecourt.com
Maki, thanks for the post. I am hereby networking with you!
I just opened up my blog to comments about a month ago after thinking about it for quite a while. So far I’ve gotten maybe a half-dozen comments. I’m eager to have more readers comment, but I know it will happen in time. Reading your post, though, really made me realize that at some point, I’ll have a constantly increasing concern about spam. I’d love to have 37 comments on a single blog post, like you have on this post so far, but I envision that when a blog gets that much community activity, the requirements of managing the blog increase exponentially. Am I right? How do bloggers successfully manage that level of community involvement and still have time for their clients?
In response to your twitter (although on the wrong post), I definitely like the new design. Not a huge fan of the colours but it does offer:
– More space
– Cleaner lines
– I love the last 10 posts with their images to match…very smart
I’ve noticed you leave some huge comments on blogs and wondered why you’d spend so much time writing them, now I guess I know
Great post
Thank you for sending this e-mail to me. I read thought your comments, i felt that I was smarter than before, and it is the greatest awakeness for me how to learn the properly ways to get my web more traffic. I will follow what you told me about the meaning and get start to build the most traffic web. Thank you so much.
I cannot disagree with this, as my brand is all about mindsets, and development. It’s quite difficult in our societies of “quick fix” mentalities for people to have patience, and think longterm. I sometimes think that when there’s always someone doing it ‘quicker’, it causes impatience in others. Amazingly enough, what we choose to do short term, does not always get us very far in the bigger picture. When we think longterm, other things become important.
I remember the first time I saw a such commenter. I had been reading a few blogs one day, and saw that the same person had commented the same generic sentence in all of them. I guess I was naive to the game as I was new, and I didn’t understand the purpose. I get it now. When people read lots of material each day, they are bound to come across people that do that, and it decreases their attractiveness to readers.
I see that Samantha has read this subject elsewhere lately. I have to admit that I haven’t, but I’m glad that people are writing about it, and especially to increase awareness to newbies who are trying to figure everything out.
The blogging world has also become “quick fix”, and I’m kind of missing a sense of integrity that goes lost when systems are….can’t find another word than, “misused”.
Well said, Maki. Whenever I read an interesting blog post, I ALWAYS read the comments, as well… sometimes there’s more “gold” in the comments than the original post. I discover terrific blogs this way, often in niches that I’d never normally be interested in. But of course I only click through on comments that offer true value and intrigue me.
Comments are what make blogs “addictive” to me. It’s the interactivity, the back-and-forth discussion and networking from a variety of personalities that make a blog much more than a static web site. When I come across a blog that doesn’t allow comments, I scratch my head in disbelief and am unlikely to visit it again, even if the blogger’s posts are interesting.
So from a reader’s standpoint, people who leave thoughtful, interesting comments get my attention, and my visit to their blog/site, where I can get to know them better — their “networking” has succeeded with me.
From a writer’s standpoint, I am usually careful about comments I make. Sometimes I get “fired up” and start writing a comment that exposes serious flaws, inaccuracies or downright stupidity in a post… but I never hit “submit comment” until I’ve calmed down and reread what I wrote. Most often I change my comment to be more positive… or I simply delete it if I can’t think of anything positive to say (unless I feel readers of the post are being intentionally misled; then I do “speak up”). It’s not just that I’m very aware of the points you make in your post, Maki (I do this when my comments are anonymous, as well). It’s a mindset. As a writer, I understand the value of words. I use them with care and treat them with respect, even when no one knows they’re mine.
That’s what i wanted to say.
Thanks.
I’m starting to comment more but based on what articles I like =D. Great insight on your viewpoints on comments.
Another excellent post on a worthy topic. I have found it puzzling that since I launched my blog 2 years ago, I have had many people say verbally to me how much they enjoyed it, but that did not translate into posting comments, or subscribing, so I find part of my job as a blogger is to recruit for this, something I did not plan on. I think it is encouraging for people to post positive comments, since typically most people only take the trouble to write anything down if they are being critical or negative. I wish people could just go ahead and post their comments in writing instead of just verbally, since that is the point, isn’t it?
Absolutely right on, as usual, Maki. Long-term. Relationoships. *Reciprocity*: you give me a great post; I’ll give you a comment that’s worthy of the effort you put into it.
But I can’t count the many many times I’ve wanted to comment on a blog, if only to show appreciation for a particularly useful post (e.g. most everything doshdosh) but had very little else to add of value — no new information or insights, no experience that would shed light on another angle, no cure for the problem raised or questions about the solution — and have had to click away without commenting at all.
Sometimes the barrier is the problem of finding something fresh to add to the 70-something comments that precede mine. Sometimes it’s the pressure of time, or obligations that call me away before I’ve had time to do more than read — no chance to craft a worthy response. (And sometimes it’s as simple as the RSI (“blogger’s elbow” / “mouser’s wrist”) acting up, when every key stroke is agony. You have to really be burning to comment then!) And especially when one comes to a blog to learn, as other commenters here have already said, it’s all that much harder to find ‘value’ to add — good intentions and a keen interest are sometimes not enough.
Add to that the wide range of what different bloggers consider to be ‘valuable’ enough for their blogs, and how they might respond (publically!) to one’s best attempts at commenting — there’s the intimidation factor, too. Just last week, I saw a fairly wellknown blogger (who shall remain nameless) slap down a new reader/commenter for being ‘facile’ and ‘naive’: well, yes, of course that arrogance will come back to bite the blogger, somewhere down the line, but to me the point of the incident is this: how long will it be before the person who got the public tongue-lashing will venture out to leave another comment?
All of which is a very very long-winded way of saying that I wish for a broader definition of ‘value’ in comments. I’ll happily take a ‘Nice blog, thx!’ from an inarticulate teen if that’s what they have to say and all they can offer. Let the other commenters judge the value of that contribution to the conversation, I say. They’ll vote (or not) with clicks through to the commenter’s site…
What do you think of that approach?
Picture posts get much better response for comments that a post full of writing ..
this post smart way to inspire intelligent blog comments
I have found that some blogging relationships are developing because of comments I have left on sites, and on some that have been left on mine. I’m not a marketer at all. I’m just a guy giving my opinion or sharing some information. Nothing more, nothing less.
way to tell it like it is dude!
and the minimalistic new design is really clean and crisp
Darren Rowse had a post once about how it takes a certain number of interactions before someone remembers you. Like you have to see someone post, like, 10 comments before you start to remember their name. So that’s been my attitude about commenting. But you also have to think about what you want to be remembered for. Do you want to be an annoying, spammy, link-happy commenter? Or do you want to be known as someone who has insightful, constructive things to say?
# Jay Francis Hunter – remember this: some bloggers (and I personally) use a WP plugin or built-in WP blog option that lets readers sign-up to receive follow-up comments. So regardless you’re the first commenting or the 70th one, it’s worth to still do it.
Hey, even Maki uses this one where people get notified by follow-up comments via e-mail,
straight to their inbox. Did you notice the check box below “Submit Comment”?
Cheers,
Codrut Turcanu – “Succeeding Against All Odds!”
Here Here..
Well said Maki,
Unfortunately, there will always be silly comments that bring no value to the discussion.
LIKE THIS ONE..
Nice post Maki. The importance of building links through blog commenting is talked all the time. But is it really that important?
Obviously, if someone visited our blog and comment with a URL going back to their website or blog in a signature, it is acceptable as long as that person provide some value to the community. But it should not be done just for the sake of getting backlinks.
People would like to do business with experts. That is the reason why some people are successful as getting traffic through blog commenting and others fail to do so. Actually the latter doesn’t provide any contribution or value to the entire community and it’s telling on their blog comments.
If they do it the right way, it will help them to build a relationship not only with the publisher but with the other community members too who are active on that particular blog and it helps them a lot in the long run.
Cheers,
Codrut Turcanu – “Succeeding Against All Odds!”
Hi,
Of course that when I post a comment on a blog, especially a blog like yours that gets lots of visitors, it’s quite probable that I may get a few visits to my blog; the fact that your posts get so many comments may also mean of course, that the possibilities are less than on an article with just three or four posts.
I believe that it’s important to make a comment when one feels that can contribute to the article or as a compliment to the author for an excellent article.
As for moderatting comments, if the blog gets only a few visits, then it’s relatively easy, but for a blog that gets lots of visits, it can prove to be a dantesque (did I type this correctly ?) task.
And last but not the least, having an ethical attitude can only bring advantages.
Kind regards,
José
Thanks for covering this interesting topic, Maki.
Like most things in life, the Internet’s a lot like Star Wars. There’s both a dark and light side to it.
It’s influential bloggers like yourself, Darren Rowse and Brian Clark who are maintaining the balance, fighting the unethical behaviour of those who want to make a quick buck. Bloggers who emphasize value and explain how to do so are teaching others good Internet morals and ettiquette.
I’m new to your blog and you’ve impressed me. Can’t wait for more!
This has me thinking a bit. I like the idea of using comments more to build relationships than as just SEO or a link.
I was at one time guilty of misusing comments, not by posting inappropriately, but by not posting comments at all. I can’t help but wonder how much traffic I was losing before. A couple of years worth of lost traffic at that.
But now I do try to get out and about and comment more. This post puts things in an even better perspective for me.
Cheers,
Eban
OOOH, New theme, am I too late to discover ti? I really love it, actually always love ur blog style, neat but really perfect!
Great point. Drives me nuts when someone tries to leave a generic comment, especially if they’re just using a keyword as a name. There should be something more you can say. I see it most on older posts that they probably found from search engines, not from reading my blog regularly anyhow.
Maki- a first comment here for me, so, hello.
I used to envy all the modernists who migrated to Paris and had all those great conversations in cafes, spawned fabulous art , literature and ideas, inventions. The blogs I like are more like those to me, or like a Salon where ideas can be exchanged, discussed, enhanced or hotly debated. You know exercise for the mind, an excursion to find something innovative, or a new relevance for some old tried and trues, or maybe to find that thing you absolutely needed to get. Or maybe we need to see the new edges, the new frontiers and contexts. Sure you want people to get to know you a bit, but for the good stuff you bring to the table, not for being rude.
So the venue is changed, technology new, but it’s still a matter of civility if you’re in it for the long term. Circulating, being au courant, a little adventurous…with a virtual beret.
Nice post.
This is the first time I commented here and I must say that you provide genuine, quality information for bloggers! Great job and thanks too.
It is really impersonal to leave a KEYWORD BASED NAME.
I get quite my share of these in my blogs, and on the ones i work at. I tend to edit the name out, and add the persons first name. If it is purely a spammy comment, or a zero value type comment, i dont hesitate in completely deleting it.
Im not a big time blogger, so im guessing people think i will accept a keyword based or spammy comment, because i dont get hundreds of them. But they are wrong, i wont accept them.
I dont believe i have very left a keyword based name anywhere, simply because i have always felt it to be quite impolite and too self-serving type of a thing.
Guys, dont do it, its not worth it. Plus the juice you get from it, is very very minute.
Many people abuse the comments section and even insult the blog owner. This forces the blog owner to moderate every single comment. The investment in money and time convinces many blog owners to disable commenting rather than wade thru a lot of spammy ads.
Good coments actually enhance the blog and help visitors, those are a big plus, but sadly they are less than 5% of my total.
Thanks for another great post, Maki. You’d think if someone were going to take the time to post a comment they would also take the time to make it relevant, interesting, and useful. It probably doesn’t take that much more time and effort and the effects are completely different. On the one hand, you’re likely to have your comment deleted or ignored by other readers of the blog. On the other, you’ll be developing a relationship with the blog owner and the readers of the blog. You’re more likely to incite curiosity in others so they’ll click over to your own blog. In my mind, taking a long-term view, you’re way better off building relationships and adding value to the blogs you post comments on than simply spamming or adding low-value short comments. The question is–are you going to be around long-term or not? If so, the approach to take is obvious–add value.
Since this post is about leaving comments, I thought I would do just that. I don’t comment a lot on blogs. Now I will. Yours is one blog that I read, enjoy, and find value. I have two blogs and would LOVE for folks to leave comments, which no one has yet. So …. since I want comments, I shall begin leaving comments. Thanks for writing about the benefits of leaving comments on blogs.
Peace,
Mary
@Brett Borders
Short comments are usually fine but you should probably understand that this is the modus operandi for most link spammers, I don’t usually recommend doing it too often since they may actually hurt more than help. Then again it depends on how you view the purpose of comments..
@ RT
That’s very generous of you to actually use three dofollow plugins for the comment section!
@ Narc
Yes, it’s kinda common sense but I don’t think most people comment with this particular mindset. I’m just assuming here but from what I’ve read and seen, the emphasis on using comments for traffic or link-building is rather strong.
@ Jay Francis Hunter
That’s a great observation! I did feel the same as you a long time ago but you’re absolutely right, I’m quite sure the blogger in question reads every comment. It’s not about how far down your comment is but how it portrays yourself/adds to the conversation.
@ Abhijeet
Well I think it depends on how you do it. There are certainly ways to maximize the amount of traffic you get from a discussion. For instance, saying something controversial or putting a link to an article on your site work better than simply leaving a ‘great post’ comment. It is easy if you commit yourself towards using comments as a method to build traffic but yes, I do agree that the rewards may not be great if you do not have much time.
@ Lid
I understand what you mean but if you ever have any questions at all, feel free to raise them in the comment section!
@ Foot In Mouth
I can’t regulate the blog community but hopefully comment quality on Dosh Dosh will improve and judging from what I’ve seen so far, comments for this article have been terrific!
@ Karen Zara
I don’t like to pick fights unnecessarily so I didn’t think it was important to name and shame this person. -)
@ Edward
You have been taught well, indeed.
@ Sano
I don’t have anything against short comments but sometimes, they really do get very spam-like. For instance, I often get the same exact two-word comments by the same person in several blog posts and he usually posts them one after the other. You can imagine my impression of him isn’t improved one bit. Maybe once in a while, these sort of comments are OK.
@ NextInstinct
You’re welcome! And I do think most bloggers or websites should have a public or unwritten comment policy they use to regulate participation by their readers.
@ Easton
I’ll look forward to reading your post!
@ David Brown
Thanks!
@ Shane
Yeah I think the context sometimes influences the comment form. And so does the niche topic involved. I noticed that on some political blogs, some of the comments can get incredibly long, this might not be the case in a tech blog.
@ Wendi Kelly
I think only a small percentage of readers will bother to comment on a particular post. Don’t take it to heart because some of them might be busy or they might shy or have nothing to add. For example, I have over 15,000 subscribers but usually average around 40+ comments for each post. That’s a pretty small percentage.
And don’t worry about re-hashing, really. Just offer your honest opinion, trust me.. the blogger reading it cares.
@ Hjortur
Those three points you’ve mentioned are great principles to follow!
@ Odin Chen
Blogs can be a little one-directional, especially if the blogger doesn’t bother to reply to the comments left by the readers. It’s always good to think about what to say but don’t over stress that bit, just get your point of view across and check back to read the comments left by others if you’re interested.
@ Scotty
I think people without blogs or websites are equally qualified to comment. Do they have more freedom when writing comments? Perhaps, but not because they don’t have an agenda to promote or protect but because of the anonymity. Personally, I welcome a meaningful comment from anyone, regardless if they have a website or not. After all, I’m interested in the other person’s opinion and not his/her website or reputation.
@Syn
Thanks for subscribing… feel free to drop by anything to leave a comment!
@ Luke Hoersten
Conversations are one of the main things I like about writing too. I found that I’ve learned a great deal from the comments left on my site.
@ Sonny Gill
Yes indeed, the comments on this post have been fantastic!
@ Linda R. Moore
I know how you feel. I love getting long, thought out comments as well. Especially if they are thought provoking. It really shows that what you wrote matters to the other person.
@ Aaron from Webspear
Ah yes I’ve seen that method of arranging comments before and it was a little confusing to me. Since some readers comment on the comments ahead of them, I think arranging them from the first to the last might make more sense.
@ Nathalie Lussier
You’re welcome! I’m glad you like the new design!
@ Bamboo Forest
It is definitely in your interest to comment more, especially on blogs in your niche. It will help you to get some extra readers and is helpful for your brand as well.
@ Rajaie
I agree with what you’re saying, once in a while won’t hurt but if you can do better than ‘great post’, why not? Personally, I’ve always been more attracted to comments that continue the topic explored in the post or add more to what has already been discussed. Not because it’s longer but because these sort of comments make me think. They also demonstrate the knowledge of the commenter, much more than a simple ‘great post’.
For example, I definitely noticed you a lot more since you didn’t just drop a two-word comment.
@ Angela
Thanks for sharing this article!
@ Raj
I guess this article is the best thing I can do to improve comment quality without being too preachy or aggressive on enforcing certain modes of behavior (which isn’t what I want).
@ Martin Jamieson
That’s a good strategy and one that used to practice myself. I would also suggest moving into email or IM communications once you’ve gotten to know the blogger better through consistent commenting. This will deepen the established relationship.
@ Mrs S
I see you need no introduction to the relationship building benefits of comments
@ Mikael
Haha I see what you mean. Hopefully the quality of the comments for Dosh Dosh will hold up after this article fades away into the archives.
@ Cath Lawson
Yes, your comments can usually be found in the search engines. Just another reason why you should leave words that you want people to associate with you or your site.
@ Lou
You’re welcome. Feel free to leave comments on Dosh Dosh anytime. It matters to me!
@ What Sells Online
Definitely. I encourage people to comment in a way to improve their brand or reputation and not just focus on the immediate benefits.
@ Igor The Troll
I’ve never noticed that about monkeys but thanks offering that interesting observation. -)
@ mikey777
And a good friend will give you extra exposure many times over….
@ Richard McDuff
As mikey777 has said, use comments to make friends, share knowledge and build relationships of value with others, especially those in the same industry/niche. That is definitely the way to go when you want to build up your brand or reputation.
@ Skip Anderson
Yes, you’re right. For example, I have a lot of comments to read and respond too. That definitely takes more time but it is still manageable. What you can do is to be selective, for instance you don’t need to reply every comment that someone leaves on your blog.
I normally only reply a comment when I have something to say or when the comment raises a specific issue or asks me a question. Other than that, moderating comments is quite a breeze, it generally takes less than 5 minutes everyday for me to do that.
@ Glen Allsopp
Thanks for the feedback with the new theme!
@ monsiaw
You’re welcome!
@ Pentad
It’s hard for someone to resist the instant benefits that come from dropping a link in a comment section. After all, its so easy to do. I have to admit, thinking longterm is hard.
Sometimes people are pressed for time or they just can’t think of any other way to promote their site. I don’t blame them but they aren’t helping themselves much. In fact, they are harming their reputation along with the possiblity of having a deeper relationship with the blogger in question.
@ Bonnie
That’s a great way to comment and I do wish there were more people like you around on the interwebs. Not many people are careful with their words, including myself sometimes. I have written things I would love to take back but now its not possible..
@ Carrie
I think one way of encouraging comments on your site is to go out there and comment actively on other blogs in your niche. I did this when I first started and I noticed that these bloggers often came around to my blog and commented on my articles. They also linked to them, which sent more people over.
@ rjleaman
Thanks for the detailed comment! Value, like the quality of any article is subjective. Some users may find a particular comment useful, others may not. But that doesn’t mean that there aren’t some general characteristics to a ‘valuable’ comment. The owner of the blog usually has a good idea of what he or she values in a commenter.
Generally, a good comment does the following:
- Raises questions about points raised in the article
- Offers new information which supplements the article
- Offers an opinion that is based on experience or existing knowlege
There are probably a lot more points I can add but these are what comes to mind for now.
But don’t let this stop you from commenting! As Jay Francis has mentioned, if you as a blogger read every comment posted on your blog, you can trust that other bloggers are reading every comment posted, even the ones that come in later (after a good amt of comments above it).
Sometimes if you don’t feel like commenting, don’t comment. It’s not a problem. But when you do comment, try to go a little more out of your way to say something more than ‘great post’. That’s roughly what I try to live by.
@ Adam Singer
Indeed. I love how this comment thread is going so far.
@ phil.gs
Definitely agree on the number of interactions bit. The more visible you are, the better your chance of getting on the blogger’s radar.
@ Codrut
You’re right, comment subscription or RSS can allow a comment to easily be monitored by other commenters.
@ Jose
Dante-sque task? Hehe maybe. It gets more difficult when you get many comments but it’s still manageable.
@ Steph
Providing value and practicing etiquette is always the way to stand out, especially since there are so many anonymous, rude people online. I can tell you that people really appreciate and trust people who don’t try to scam, sell or use them.
@ Janice Cartier
Nice comparison. I like thinking of blogs as the Salons in Paris. Except you don’t get coffee, wine and cigarettes or jazz here. I wonder if conversations on a blog would flow better if every commenter was inebriated.
@ Missy
I don’t like keyword names as well, or even worse, the blog url in the name field (you can see an example in this comment thread). At least the blow is softened if they actually wrote a useful comment instead of some generic tripe. But not many do.
Good call on deleting/editing these comments, I know some other bloggers who do that as well.
@ Everyone else
Sorry I couldn’t reply to you personally but thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Gee, my blog compared to yours is a little squirrely
http://thegreatalaskanredsquirrelcam.blogspot.com/
First of, I can’t believe that you personally responded to each comment. Your actions are an indication how much you value and respect your readers *smile*. Secondly, this article hits home. I am usually a person of few words. Not because I do not want to say something but I prefer to read and observe.. This article has given me a few points to think about, thanks.
@Maki
I’m not the only one offering 3 do follow plugins. I’m working my way through lists of hundreds of blogs/websites — check the URL in the comment header above. It’s a long and tedious process, but someone’s gotta do it or it isn’t going to get done.
Maki, maybe the monkey thing works this way in the wild, but in Zoos they are domesticated. I have observed such behavior while traveling in India, Nepal, and Cambodia.
Monkeys are really smart animals. They gather around tourists attractions to get fed by visitors. In India I bought a bag of peanuts to feed the monkeys. As I was throwing peanuts to them, a few at a time, one monkey ran over to me and grabbed the whole bag of peanuts out of my hand and ran away.
Observing animals in the wild will teach us a lot about society and social media. Remember we are descendants of monkey ancestors.
Very well said. I am not surprised that you took time to reply on each comment.
Reading, moderating and replying to comments are the first things I do when I open my mails. And yes, good comments are very inspiring while spam comments are annoying.
As a token of gratitude to them, I even have a widget for the recent comments and top commenters. Now, I have more regular readers because they feel comfortable to comment.
I also made some posts about How to Reply to Comments and How to make your Readers post a Comment. Comments also boost your confidence not only because they are interested in your posts, but also a priceless gift when they say “Thank you for this post, I learned a lot” and keeping their promise when they say they will come back.
I am one of your avid subscribers and I like reading your long posts. You’re so good in discussing the issues with no hold bars.
Thanks.
@Maki
You are absolutely right.
You must have noticed that your words matters. There are no short comments on this post and everybody had tried to give a good comments.
I’ve only recently discovered your website through the links on my iGoogle home page. As a new blogger this year, I have gained a lot of knowledge and helpful advice from your articles. When I do comment, I usually have something I want to say about the article, but now you’ve got me thinking on a much broader spectrum. There have been many times when I’ve thought to comment and then decided not to because (like in your instance) there are already so many comments for the author to wade through. But now I’m thinking in terms of my own blogging, and I do enjoy reading every contribution I receive, as well as meeting those that are new to my site.
Thanks for another helpful article!
Maki,
I learn a lot of your posts! This post makes a good point abouit commenting blogs – a purpose is to build the relation.
I also learned to use Friendfeed from one of your posts – it is a great way to link to other bloggers, and find new ideas that relate to my interests ( influence of Web 2.0 on Management).
Regards,
Jeroen
Blogging has become a way to search for comments on products in your market reasearch stage to avoid the dodgy companies and deals online. Your right its a great source of traffic and any one marketing using internet should not rely on 1 source of traffic.
Thanks man, you have showed us a very beneficial mindset to adopt. I personally never thought about using it as a means for networking and long term wealth, but I’m glad I read this post. Also, people should consider leaving fewer links in their blog comments.
I’ve seen people leave a huge list of 4 or 5 links at the end of their comments, which doesn’t make any sense. Pick a link thats most relevant to the subject and stick to that one.
Take it easy.
Rich Boy
I’m Rich. You’re Not. Learn Why.
http://www.TheRichBoy.com
Another thought-provoking post. I really enjoy your blog because your writing style is easy to read and it always makes me think how I can improve my on line marketing skills. I like how you focus on the need to develop long term relationships. This is something that I struggle with partly because my business is in transition (moving from just local business to local-web), the industry I’m in is in transition (production is now off shore) and because there are so many different marketing options that due to a lack to time, sometimes its hard to know where to focus my efforts.
@Maki- Thanks. I am all for the wine and jazz…Salon Dosh Dosh . Has a nice appeal.
Check you out Maki! I don’t even know where to start… but as far as the spam commenting goes, I see a lot of bloggers doing that as well. They leave generic messages and I first found out about a few bloggers doing that when I finally read a post on someone’s site and he dropped names and websiters who do that.
I don’t know why people do that, if they have nothing to say, don’t comment. I mean, I read your blog once a week or so, have it in my RSS reader but I don’t comment as much as I should.
Also, everything you just mentioned, I had wrote about it a couple weeks ago titled “Never Underestimate Commenting”, but of course, you wrote it a lot better. Damn you Maki!!! LOL!
Oh, I don’t know if you’re going to get this and I know this might seem shameless but I’m doing the Walk for Hunger and was wondering if you knew anybody willing to contribute as a sponsor? It’s going to a good cause… a great charity and I’ll be walking the full 20 miles this weekend! Just figured I’d toss that out…
Jay
Well put. I have just come across your blog recently, and I want to say that I am already a huge fan. I’ve read most of your past post. Thank you for being so informative to the new guys!
Thank you Maki for typing about this! I bet it is a topic that many a Blogger has thought about. I tackled this topic too on one of my Blogs titling it “Blog Commentsense.” I had the same concerns and frustrations that you noted — so if I get a sniff of spam the comment doesn’t make it.
I believe comments are at the heart of a valuable discussion and those that don’t contribute are like little kids who pull on the mother’s arm annoyingly interrupting the conversation. If a comment is going to see the light of day on my Blogs it had better be because the commenter is truly sincere about being part of the conversation.
Love your Blog, BTW, recently discovered it and can’t get enough. Keep up the great work!
I couldn’t agree with your post more. I hate when people comment on my blog because it is do-follow, and its not even remotely relevant, and even worse a copy-pasted comment. I wish there was a way to penalize comment spammers other than disallowing there comment from showing.
Hello Maki,
Well I was a long 360 users so I understand the way comments can help and how one should use them. This article is sure helping and informative about commenting on another sites. Keep up the good work!
Loved your point.
Anything that we do online – from forum remarks to blogging comments to our own websites, lend itself to our online branding efforts.
The savvy online-personality will understand this and take great strides in offering something of substance to the online conversation.
It’s about viewing your online comments as a way to join into a very targeted conversational stream. I thoroughly enjoy leaving comments in those blogs that are run by bloggers of substance…who gives me something to think about and talk about.
Because the bottom-line is all about giving ‘em something to talk about…
Thanks for sharing your rich insight on how the impact on adding significance to the blogging conversation!
We appreciate it!
If half of your followers would vote your digg submissions, I bet you’d be able to get several pages to the digg front page on a daily basis.
— oh, wait.
You’re making a remarkable work here, mr Maki. And you should be congratulated about it! I, for one, cannot help but to get utterly inspired with your work. You’re a shining example in social media networking and content broadcast; you’re obviously a dedicated editor who goes out of his way to keep his submission repertoire fresh and enticing.
However, I should warn you: our success is great for teaching others, but our failures are great for teaching ourselves. Sometimes I feel as though you’re too afraid of failing, and that might cause you to get prematurely stubborn, which would be a shame.
Flexibility is a great human quality, and it should be nourished: it might just be capable of delivering our kind out from impending doom.
I feel that to really know what life is about, we must necessarily experiment everything life has to offer – and we should learn to cherish good and bad things a like; genius as well as stupidity.
Kindly,
Peace Virus
A few observations …
1.1) Threaded comments for blogs that attract lots of comments, such as yours, might help encourage those who get discouraged by seeing 100 comments before theirs or what not, and feel that their comment won’t be noticed.
1.2) An alternative I’ve seen on sites like licd.com is to send comments to a forum. The difference is that forums encourage conversation between commenters, whereas otherwise it’s largely like a Q&A after a lecture – 1 on 1 conversations between the audience and the lecturer.
2) It’s entertaining how a post about comment quality and with some early commenters emphasizing the idea of adding to the conversation/sharing value … still results in lots of ‘great post, I agree’ comments, albeit fleshed out into a few sentences.
3) Just out of curiosity, is there a reason you prefer to respond to a whole bunch of folks at once, in one big comment, rather than respond early, often and in shorter length comments to just a few people at a time? You’re an incredibly relationship builder, and so I’m trying to figure out if there’s a reason behind that or if it’s just personal preference?
4) I WISH I’d run into this 2 years ago. I read Darren’s blog and Yaro’s blog and they highlighted commenting as a way to get links and traffic. When I saw how little the links and traffic helped, I gave up. I think their point was the same as yours above, but perhaps not in as clear a manner. This should be required reading for new bloggers/anyone doing marketing online.
Also, I thought you were in Toronto? How come the timestamp says it’s already May 2nd? I have 11:30 here. Sorry if this is not exactly on-topic, but it kinda relates to comments…
Blog comments are worthless for bringing in targeted traffic. Who cares about readers who won’t click your ads? I sure don’t. I want SEARCH ENGINE TRAFFIC and I don’t care one lick whether anyone else reads my blog. I want money and other bloggers will not make me a dime!
Thanks for your nice article…
Blog commenting is the simple way to establish networking,
links and popularity of said blog.
Blogs need comments from readers to make its contents more
valuable and to get more traffic. Readers need to establish
networking and links as well. It’s a win-win situation.
Some blogs are just blogs and there are only few like doshdosh
that have quality contents.
If you want longer traffic from blogs commenting, choose blogs
that have quality contents like doshdosh.
Cheers
@Maki: Thanks for the tip maki.
@Gab Goldenberg: Considering the density of those comments above, my friend. And also, the schedule of the blogger. No one has the whole time in the universe for replying every comment every time each one appears. In forums this issue has been more serious.
Also, the comment system that allow sub-commenting would be better in your case, if you want to reply to each comment instead of all comment at once.
I’m not sure how very eager blog authors are keen to be build a relationship with their readers so even then when I do take the effort to leave any comment, I’ll just assume it’s not going to be reciprocal but rather it’s because the post content speaks to me.
However when I see blog authors respond with a digg or become a fan & etc. I truly appreciate their efforts.
Hai Maki, This first time i comment on your blog. This great post. You descript you posting so clearly, altho i have bad english grammer, I still can catch the poin from your article. So, Now i post my first comment, I am sory for my bad grammer.
Maki?the new wordpress theme of Dosh Dosh is very good!
@Odin – logical points there, well argued. I’m still a proponent for threaded comments though, because it enables a conversation to happen more naturally (without all these @s…) between commenters, and not just between the blogger and commenters.
I started a routine where I would clear out my feed reader every day.
I found I started to comment on many posts but they were rushed comments and had no value.
Since I abandoned that strategy, I now comment when a post interests me or to stay in touch with one of my regular reads. Replies and visits from the commenst I leave have definitely risen.
@Peety
You’re welcome. I’ll try to respond to comments as much as possible but that sometimes I fail because of lack of time.. sorry if I ever missed your comment or query (I know there was one in a previous post)
@ RT
That’s a great list and I can imagine that its a lot of work looking for these blogs. I wouldn’t really know where to start!
@ Igor
I recently read a news article about an orang-utan using a spear to hunt for fish. That was the first time an ape was captured on film using a tool to hunt for fish, I think. Pretty cool and more evidence for the evolutionist perspective..
@ guardian angel
You mentioned that your readers felt ‘comfortable’ to comment. I think replying to comments is probably one of the best ways for anyone to make a visitor feel welcome on a blog.
@ TJ Detwilor
Yes, this is by far one of the longest comment threads on DoshDosh, which is terrific.
@ Christy
You’re welcome. Feel free to comment anytime, we could all use your feedback!
@ Jeroen
Glad you are enjoying Friendfeed… I’m still trying to use it more often myself and find that its a terrific way to find good info sources.
@ The Rich Boy
Comments should always be made for networking…. the benefits down the road may far out weigh the value of a few links posted in a comment thread..
@ Jennifer
Thinking in the long run is always good for any business. If you ever setup and run a blog, building a relationship with your peers is quite important..
@ Jay
Haha. And all the best for your walk for charity.
@ Iliveinmyhead
You’re welcome!
@ Judith
Leaving good comments that represent you in a good light while contributing to the discussion is common sense but not many practice it. I’m not sure why, perhaps they don’t see the benefit of doing so. I can understand how its far easier to simply drop a link and run away… -)
@ Zac Davis
You could technically ban the commenters ip address although that might be going too far… you might also end up blocking other innocent folks inadvertently as well.
@ Latarsha
You’re welcome! I’m definitely focusing a lot more on interacting with visitors who land on my blog. I’ve been guilty of not chatting in the comments for the longest time. There’s a lot to learn from the people who comment on my blog and I do regret not taking the long-term perspective I have right now earlier.
@ Peace Virus
I would love for all my readers to digg my submissions everyday but sadly, I think not many care for Digg.com
It’s funny that you feel as if I’m too afraid of failing.. I wonder what part of doshdosh.com made you feel that way?:)
But I do understand, people are attracted to fallibility because they recognize that in themselves as well. You’re never going to appeal to everyone if you are too clinically perfect.
@ Gab Goldenberg
I did think of doing threaded comments but I didn’t like the way it looked. I know the feature is important and if somehow I do a redesign again, I will consider putting it… hopefully with a design that I am comfortable with.
I prefer to respond to a whole bunch of folks at once because I prefer to batch process comments. After I publish a certain post on doshdosh, I don’t visit my own site or stay on it because I have a bunch of other sites and things to do. So I reply comments like I do email, once or twice a day. It’s just more productive for me since I don’t have much time (as always).
I am in Toronto but never bothered to change the default Wordpress timestamp until now. Thanks for reminding me about it! Just fixed it this morning.
@ Clara
It’s hard to guess the intentions of a blogger but generally I’ll say from my own experience, that they like to receive comments that are meaningful and will hold these commenters in higher regard than the ones who simply leave ‘great post’ comments or spam links. Will they reciprocate in the future? It’s difficult to say but I think that’ll at least remember and think of you favorably.
@ Tomi Yahya
Your grammar is fine, don’t worry about it. Thanks for dropping by to comment!
@ Forest Parks
Good to know that commenting more leisurely has helped you!
@ Everyone else
Thanks for your opinions! I appreciate them a lot.
I agree with the idea that comments add a lot of value to a blog. Aside from the extra content they a allow for really thorough examination of topics. This is why I like blogs. Everyone can take a few minutes and express their opinion. The commenting feature, aside from all the other benefits is a great way to enhance a community around a topic and get tons of useful, potential enlightening opinions.
I think it might be a good idea to play up comments (especially these ones on your blog) as content. Make them searchable. Or play them up on the sidebar. A lot of interesting discussions happen in this forum-like setup.
Yes there is a connection that I think is important.
You comment on the blog post if you are on the list.
You dont if you are just a random user.
It think there is more than meets the eye and the quality traffic that comes from good blog posts such as this.
In fact this could be turned into an article that could get loads of traffic too….both blogs, articles and blog comments bring lots of highly qualified leads for you at the drop of a hat.
So it doesnt hurt to
1) join in and discuess new and popular topics
2) get healthy traffic that visits your site or who become buyers.
Thats the magic and the power in this.
Also test test test…i am an avid test…if it dont work for you niche dont use…pretty simple really.
Cheers
jon
Have you noticed how articles about comments alway draw so many comments?
I like to comment on blogs, if I read a good blog post I usually leave a comment but if I don’t have anything interesting to say, I leave it but may come back for more another day on a different post. I don’t get many comments on my blog but when people leave comments, I prefer it if it looks like they actually read my post and not used some blog commenting software!
Thank you for this article.
I had never thought of commenting on blogs as a way to build a relationship with the blogger.
You have opened my mind to a new social network I was not aware of.
Although I do blog and do enjoy comments made on my articles I had not considered the prospect of actually building relationships through the comments.
Thank you,
Donna
Great Article!
Especially the sentences: “When you think in the short-term, you’re usually overlooking the value of relationships. And if you want to be successful in any industry or field, it helps to make friends with people who can help to get you there.” Will keep this in mind…
Nice post! I see a blog comment as something that should add to the discussion.If the commenter make an effort with this, there will be people visiting his/her blog at some point as well.It is all about branding your self on the internet.(Stumbled)
Maki, thanks for answering my questions. I think I need to imitate you in regards to responding to email and such, but reading, commenting and all is such a nice break from other work…
Also, speaking of the carpenter living in a rickety house … I don’t think my timestamp is changed either! lol
Finally, I’d love to see threaded comments in the next redesign, and think it would help you develop this from a blog to a bigger community. You certainly have the traffic and participation for it!
Hi Maki,
I just came across your helpful article after it was recommended bya friend. I can see that you’ve got quite a loyal following judging by the number of responses you’ve received so far to your post. You’ve also taken the time to actually read and respond to quite a few of them which generated even more comments from your visitors.
You are proving the points in your article that the best way to build a lasting relationship with your readers is to provide them with valuable content and then allowing them to voice their opinions about your post (unless it’s a spam comment) in return for a link back to their site. I can see why your blog is rated so highly by Google and the other search engines.
I’m going to make sure to tell others about your site. Keep up the great work.
I have always maintained that for a blogger, commenting is the best way of actively interacting with your audience on a regular basis. I think from that perspective, IE commenting on other peoples blogs, should be considered a channel of communication If you want to consider that networking then I think that’s great, but I like the subtle difference of calling it relationship building.
That said, while I’ve found commenting to be productive and interactive with my personal blog, I’m having a difficult time engaging with my new commercial blog. Does anyone have any suggestions how to build a network / relationships by using blog comments for commercial purposes?
Thanks,
SteveW
Dear Maki,
I love your blog, and I know the copyright policy of your blog. I wanted to inform you that this post has been stolen verbatim!
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Best of luck and happy blogging!
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Dear Maki,
I love your blog, and I know the copyright policy of your blog. I wanted to inform you that this post has been stolen verbatim!
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Best of luck and happy blogging!
It’s interesting how this issue of long term relationships vs. short term “exploitation” is so key to our whole culture. Very interesting post, Maki. If only we realized not only in commenting, but in life, how much more valuable lasting solid relationships are than quick get-rich-quick schemes. I will definitely keep this in mind!
I have to admit, as a less experienced blogger I was much more interested in plugging my link into a comment than I was about providing a valuable point. Now, I rarely bother to post my link into the comment section. I like to think my comments speak for themselves, and hopefully they will be engaging enough for another reader to take a peek at my site. I’ve developed some meaningful relationships this way, and won’t go back to blatant self-promotion. Lesson learned.
I am torn with the use of comemts to get anchored bank links. I tend to forget and just use my name – but sometimes I am trying to index a new site and then I want anchor – but I feel silly commenting with a new name on a blog I am a known commenter on!
Bravo. You said what a lot of us bloggers think and I applaud you for doing that. Too many times have I seen and read comments on a post that I wrote or that someone else wrote and see comments that just have no bearing to the post. Added value is the objective to commenting and all the other values will follow.
Thanks for a great article. I totally agree about spammers. They are pure evil
And you really well said about establishing relationships with the help of comments. I think this is one of the most important things why blogs are so popular. It’s because readers opinion is also important and reader feels more valued.
Simply fantastic post. You just got another subscriber. It’s funny, I was writing about just this very thing in a post I am preparing for my own blog – and it is a theme that I have seen flying around a little recently. Which is good.
The same principle was also eloquently expressed by none other than RJ himself – http://www.therichjerk.com/blog/2008/04/21/how_to_stop_bitching_about_how.html
It’s simple really. People have this idea that in order to “get” money you have to take something from people. But the best way to profit is to make yourself the most useful. As RJ says, it is not about you any more, it is about your clients. The same applies to blogging: if all you are thinking about is yourself, it is transparent. As soon as you shift your focus onto providing value and service in your actions, you start building reputation: And reputation is one of the cornerstones of prosperity. This is an idea whose time has come…. let’s get it viral!
Alex.
Real nice post. Many bloggers write same old things on how and why to comment. This post talks something different in dept. Definitely a post from a professional blogger who has done the homework pretty well.
Very good post.
I’m afraid when I first started blogging I would post on blogs just to get my blog ‘out there’ but now I actually find that if you put some thought into your comments and comment more because you have something to say than simply leaving a backlink it is better.
If that makes any sense.
I’m new here so let’s hope this is the start of a wonderful relationship!
I certainly don’t envy popular bloggers who have to endure the moderation process. Even with good spam filters I’m sure far too much gets through.
To my mind it’s a two way street. I have a full time job and don’t have time to contribute to a myriad of blogs. I therefore chose to come back to those which capture my interest, make me think, make me laugh etc. 99% of the time I do my utmost to make an informed comment, something that will add value. A little link lurve in response is a fair trade in my book.
Relationships are the key to success in everything, be it friendship, family or business. If you don’t build strong foundational relationships, eventually you’ll fall. I’m relatively new to commenting on blog posts. Many times my instinct is to just leave a “great post” because, while I enjoyed the post, I didn’t have any burning need to contribute – but, I wanted the author to know that it was read and enjoyed. I know that I love getting comments, even if they’re not long and thought-out. It’s a bit of an ego boost when you’re a newby.
Recently though I’ve been trying to focus on really giving feedback on the content and idea of the post. I’m glad to see that I’m on the right track. Thanks for the great read! AMVA
There is a lot of good points brought up by this article that is easy to see once its written down that a lot of people can learn from. Nice job.
Good insight. I came to your blog when I was looking for topics from blogs where I can leave comments with link to new service that i’m trying to get some trafick. That post that I came to your site from google, did not allow comments (so old or was not working from my computer), so I started to read more of your posts and put your RSS to my reader.
Now later on I’m reading my RSS feeds and this post was so funny to read. Anyhow I will not post that link here. I would rather like for you to test that site for your self and see if other readers should know about it too
I couldn’t agree more that comments are a great place to network with bloggers.
I have used this strategy on traditional media blog sites to get direct responses from reporters, which is virtually impossible.
There is no link follow and because of that they don’t get many comments, so when they do, they take note. If you say something intelligent, you might just find yourself getting featured in a newspaper or major media blog.
I do a lot of blog commenting and I its the same principle for the real and virtual world — say hi and introduce yourself through blog commenting and people will be interested in learning about you.
i’ll never thought that blog commenting can go this far as site promotion is concern. Im happy because blog commenting is my favorite among my SEO tasks because i was able to get some ideas (whether it is about design or posting technique)
You are absolutely correct, not many people leave valuable comments. All comments on our blogs that don’t add any value just get deleted, exspecially when they contain links.
I guess we have the Google and other search engines algorithms to blame for this. Wouldn’t it be great if they managed to determine the quality of a website not by the number of inbound links and keywords pointing to and add a human side to it as well.
Moreover, comments just for a quick traffic and exposure will have a long-term negative effect on your “brand”. Think forward. In the future, short meaningless comments will rather discourage people from visiting your blog/website and your “name” will suffer, too. Of course, commenting on popular dofollow blogs is a very effective backlink building strategy as well as a good way to get new visitors but remember that your comments represent yourself, your blog, your brand. The better they are, the better image you will have.
Personally, commenting on popular dofollow blogs (like Dosh Dosh for instance
) is certainly part of my SEO strategy. On the other hand, I’m commenting only the articles I’ve read and that were really interesting/useful/helpful for me. Simultaneously, I’m trying my best to make quality informative posts. I wouldn’t like my brand to be viewed negatively because of few bad useless comments.
Hey! Great Post! bye…
Just kidding. This was in fact a very informative article, especially because it presents a positive point of view for establishing contact with the blog author, and the other readers; which can create a relationship. That is very web 2.0, baby!
I remember a few months ago I came across a great blog, but there was no comment area. I believe the author turned it off. Therefore, the only way I could communicate with him was via the “contact me” link. To me, that wasn’t zesty, but we did trade a few e-mails.
On my site, I try to encourage comments, but can’t seem to get anyone to post any. Maybe I should be careful what I wish for, as the opposite to a quiet blog would be getting overrun with spam posts. , What’s a person to do? I guess that’s a testament to my content, eh?
You mentioned the example of the affiliate marketer leaving the exact comment, word-for-word, on several other (disrelated) sites and you considered that bordered on spam. I would leave out the “bordered on.”
Hey Maki,
I read your blog all the time but this is my first comment. I had to say something since this article is so easy to relate to. I’ve always refrained from commenting on blogs unless I had something to add to the conversation.
Well I think that the idea of using comments as a networking medium is ingenious. I never thought about it from that perspective and I guess that most comments that you read don’t really give examples of that. Great post!
I’m interested in learning various ways to interact in the blogosphere, provide great content to my readers, monetize it all without writing sales pitches. I’m learning that reviews work.
Keep doin’ what you do!
I’m not a marketing expert so unfortunately commenting on other blogs is among the only ways upon which I believe I am able to attract visitors to my blog.
Yes Social Media is very powerful. Just remember when someone reads your comments in one place they may not react to it, but once they read it on a few blogs they will listen to what you have to stay!
Always stay close to the topic, avoid duplicating your message in multiple places! And do not make it Spammy!
I started blogging over a year ago. At the time I fell into the mistake you’ve described — I considered comments just another way get links to my various sites. What a mistake!
What I’ve realized in the last few months is that whatever it takes to make money blogging, I don’t have. But I do get opportunities to consult. I should have realized long ago that building the “Scott Hebert brand” is far more important than improving search engine rankings.
Thanks for the confirmation.
Does that mean we shouldn’t leave a comment as we haven’t a clue what we’re rambling on about?
or do we have more freedom to write what we think without a project to market?
Self-PR usually means carefully editing as you type your views.
Would you leave the same comment if you didn’t link your own blog to it?
Yes. u r right.
I never considered to make friendship with my fellow bloggers!
actually i commented very little…and fortunately those were relevant!
Hey Maki!
Thanks for the ‘heads up’ in this post. You gave me pause to think when you pointed out the enduring nature of our posts. I had fallen into the trap of seeing only the immediacy of the post and my reply, but I can see the real importance of considering the long term effect as well.
I propose to be very careful in future regarding HOW I comment.
There is a lot of good points in this article Blog commenting is the simple way to establish networking,
links and popularity of said blog.
nice work
Well after that post I just HAVE to comment don’t I (:
I liked the info you gave here. For the most part I dont’ leave comments unless I have something meaningful to say, I just hate it when someone just leaves “this is great!” comments. That’s pointless…although it still is nice to know that they read it (hopefully).
To be honest, usually, if I see a lot of comments on a entry I don’t leave a comment because it seems like there are so many mine will just get passed over. But from what you’re saying, that’s the wrong way to think.
Thanks for the tips here! I’ll be applying them to my commenting habits!
Interesting article, thanks for all?
Are they the same stats for comments as for forums – 90% more lurkers than talkers.
For me there is an inherent shyness…but I must say I really enjoy getting comments on my blog. It’s like getting letters. So i am trying to comment more often.
Thanks for great ideas.
I’m just learning about this kind of marketing. I always wondered why people would leave comments that were not relevent. (I’m sure you’re all thinking, what does she live in a vacuum?) Thanks for the post and the attached comments. It really helpful.
Too many webmasters view blog commenting as only a traffic or link building strategy. This rigid marketing emphasis has led to certain modes of behavior. For example, one might make the effort to comment exclusively on blogs with nofollow turned off, while using keyword names in order to increase the search engine ranking for one’s website.
in above lines author successfully conveyed his/her message.
Nice work done.
That’s exactly what I’ve been talking about for so long – everyone is there for the “quick buck” these days. I think there was a name for it… something like the “pill syndrome” eg. instant gratification. And this doesn’t only ruin huge potential for them from things like leveraging your media reach, sharing ideas, getting a piece of your knowledge, but it’s also the reason why there is so much content these days and no real information. It’s like everyone wants to “trick it”. Long-term business however is about value. I kinda got too deep and off-topic, but you get the point!
P.S. That’s my first comment, but I’ve been following your blog for some time now – I like your focus on real marketing and social media networks online.
Thanks for the article. An interesting read.
Thanks for the interesting article!Just remember when someone reads your comments in one place they may not react to it, but once they read it on a few blogs they will listen to what you have to stay! I think, we should try to encourage comments, but can’t seem to get anyone to post any.
I hated when people just copy and paste a comments…A lot of people just comment to get a backlinks , can’t blaim them because backlinking is one of the fundamentals to get a good pagerank and visitors.
However if the comment is relevant to the topic, then it’s actually a far better backlink then a simply copy and paste and the value of having a lot of firends is so big ;D
Thanks Maki, I have just found your blog and you have so much great stuff here. Very insightful and inspiring.
My problem is that I find it hard to keep on my comments for reply. For example, do I just make a comment here and go, or does etiquette suggest I should keep an eye out for a response? There aren’t any good tools I know of to do this.
This is a great point that I think extends to all other aspects of social media and web 2.0. It really is the difference between short-term and long-term thinking. Marketers who post comments just to drive traffic may get results but it tends to be a flash in the pan when compared to marketers who focus more on building and nurturing relationships. The smart marketers do this and they inevitably see more stable and more lasting benefits.
Thanks for posting. This is the first time I’ve visited your blog. I’m greatly looking forward to reading more! Keep ‘em comin’!
-Ronnie
Excellent article. Really good advice. I couldn’t agree with you more. Too many people only use comments for link building.
Thanks Maki, your make me Very insightful and inspiring.
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